
NYK • Forward-Guard • #8
about 2 months ago
Anunoby’s return on Friday will mark his first appearance since November 4, when he was injured early in a game against the Heat. His return will also provide the Knicks with reliable shooting and defense from the forward position, as the team looks to put together back-to-back wins. He’s been productive across several categories and should remain a nice option for fantasy managers regardless of the league type.
Source: Kristian Winfield

NYK • Center-Forward • #23
about 2 months ago
Robinson’s absence on Wednesday freed up a few minutes for Ariel Hukporti, who did not provide much value in the backup center role. With Robinson available, Hukporti may fall out of the Knicks’ rotation entirely.
Source: NBA Injury Report

NYK • Forward-Guard • #8
about 2 months ago
This is the first time that Anunoby has been considered questionable for a game since straining his hamstring during a November 14 loss to the Magic. So, even if he does not play on Friday, a return to action may not be far away. Either Miles McBride or Josh Hart will head to the bench once Anunoby is healthy enough to play, with the former being the more likely option.
Source: Steve Popper

MIL • Forward • #34
about 2 months ago
Giannis went down just three minutes into Wednesday night’s game, and the Bucks were fortunate enough to quickly rule out an Achilles injury. However, it turns out that the calf injury could keep him on the shelf for an extended period of time anyway. With reports coming out that Giannis has also asked the Bucks for a trade, we’d expect the team and player to both be cautious with his return, which will likely keep him out until the beginning or middle of January. In the meantime, Bobby Portis Jr. figures to see an uptick in minutes, and both Kevin Porter Jr. and Kyle Kuzma will be leaned on for higher usage. Giannis’ recovery timeline could be additionally interesting because players who signed offseason extensions, like Knicks wing Mikail Bridges, aren’t eligible to be traded until February. With Giannis sidelined for a few weeks, that could open up new trade possibilities for the Bucks, if they choose to move their star.
Source: Shams Charania

MIL • Forward • #34
about 2 months ago
Giannis went down just three minutes into Wednesday night’s game, and the Bucks were fortunate enough to quickly rule out an Achilles injury. However, it turns out that the calf injury could keep him on the shelf for an extended period of time anyway. With reports coming out that Giannis has also asked the Bucks for a trade, we’d expect the team and player to both be cautious with his return, which will likely keep him out until the beginning or middle of January. In the meantime, Bobby Portis Jr. figures to see an uptick in minutes, and both Kevin Porter Jr. and Kyle Kuzma will be leaned on for higher usage. Giannis’ recovery timeline could be additionally interesting because players who signed offseason extensions, like Knicks wing Mikal Bridges, aren’t eligible to be traded until February. With Giannis sidelined for a few weeks, that could open up new trade possibilities for the Bucks, if they choose to move their star.
Source: Shams Charania

MIL • Forward • #34
about 2 months ago
When a player goes down with a non-contact lower leg injury, as Giannis did on Wednesday, it doesn’t take much effort to fear the worst. The Bucks announced during Wednesday’s game that the superstar forward had been diagnosed with a strained right calf. During his postgame availability, Rivers said doctors had ruled out an Achilles injury. That’s great news for Milwaukee, but the next step will be to determine the severity of the injury. Jericho Sims started the third quarter and finished with 15 points, 14 rebounds and one assist in 30 minutes. However, while that was an excellent performance for him, Bobby Portis (13/9/5 with two three-pointers in 30 minutes) and Kyle Kuzma (4/4/3/1/2 in 21 minutes) are more reliable alternatives if Giannis is out for an extended period.
Source: Eric Nehm

MIL • Forward • #34
about 2 months ago
When a player goes down with a non-contact lower leg injury, as Giannis did on Wednesday, it doesn’t take much effort to fear the worst. The Bucks announced during Wednesday’s game that the superstar forward had been diagnosed with a strained right calf. During his postgame availability, Rivers said doctors had ruled out an Achilles injury. That’s great news for Milwaukee, but the next step will be to determine the severity of the injury. Jericho Sims started the third quarter and finished with 15 points, 14 rebounds and one assist in 30 minutes. However, while that was an excellent performance for him, Bobby Portis (13/9/5 with two three-pointers in 30 minutes) and Kyle Kuzma (4/4/3/1/2 in 21 minutes) are more reliable alternatives if Giannis is out for an extended period.
Source: Eric Nehm

MIL • Guard • #13
about 2 months ago
While Kevin Porter Jr. was out of the lineup, Rollins showed he was a reliable player as he moved into the starting lineup. That’s why Doc Rivers appears to be sticking with Rollins in the starting lineup even now that Porter is back. Rollins had 22 points in the win over the Pistons on Wednesday and has provided third-round fantasy value so far this season.

MIL • Guard-Forward • #77
about 2 months ago
Porter was coming off a 30-point game in Monday’s loss to the Wizards, but saw an uptick in usage on Wednesday due to Giannis Antetokounmpo leaving with an injury three minutes into the game. Porter’s in line to be an impact fantasy player for the rest of the season if he can just stay healthy.

NYK • Guard-Forward • #25
about 2 months ago
Bridges has now recorded at least two steals in 12 straight games, with that category being one of the reasons why he has been an elite fantasy option this season. The Knicks guard/forward recorded another complete stat line against the Hornets, and that has been the routine for him. Not only is Bridges continuing to provide top-10 value in nine-cat formats, but he’s closing in on that threshold in eight-cat formats as well.

NYK • Guard • #3
about 2 months ago
While he didn’t shoot the ball as well as he did in Tuesday’s loss to the Celtics, Hart flirted with a triple-double against the Hornets. He finished two rebounds and two assists shy, but the complete stat line will please those who have Hart rostered in category leagues. After a slow start to the season, Hart is shooting 49.7 percent from the field, and he’s shot 14-of-29 from three over his last five games. At a minimum, he’s properly managing the finger injury that he aggravated just before the start of training camp.

NYK • Guard • #11
about 2 months ago
Coming off his worst performance of the season, Brunson rebounded nicely on Wednesday. Given his play since arriving in New York and Charlotte’s porous defense, that was unsurprising. Friday’s matchup with the Jazz is another opportunity for Brunson to put up a gaudy stat line; while Utah has been competitive on most nights, they’re ranked 29th in points allowed per game and 27th in defensive rating.

NYK • Center-Forward • #32
about 2 months ago
After scoring 29 points against the Celtics on Tuesday, Towns did precisely what stars are supposed to do when faced with an overwhelmed opponent. In addition to recording his fourth 30-point game of the season, KAT matched his season-high with 18 rebounds. A top-25 player in eight-cat formats over the past two weeks, Towns’ season-long fantasy value continues to edge closer to his Yahoo! ADP (12).

MIL • Forward • #34
about 2 months ago
Antetokounmpo left Wednesday’s game after suffering a non-contact leg injury during the first quarter. The Bucks have since ruled him out with a strained right calf, which will likely mean an extended absence, with the timespan depending on the severity of the injury. Bobby Portis will have added value if Antetokounmpo is out for an extended period, as will Kyle Kuzma.
Source: Milwaukee Bucks

MIL • Guard • #14
about 2 months ago
Harris missed Monday’s game against the Wizards with an Achilles injury. The 31-year-old shooting guard is available against the Pistons Wednesday, but isn’t likely to play significant minutes.

MIL • Guard-Forward • #77
about 2 months ago
Porter is available after initially being listed as questionable with a back injury. The 25-year-old point guard had 30 points against the Wizards on Sunday, but left the game early with back spasms. It’s a good sign for fantasy managers that Porter’s injury wasn’t more serious as it looks like he’s running with the starting point guard job for the Bucks again.

MIL • Forward • #9
about 2 months ago
Initially questionable for Wednesday’s game, Portis has officially been cleared to play. He’ll provide depth off the bench, but that has not been a great place to be for him this season in terms of fantasy value. There’s no issue with holding onto Portis in deep leagues, but fantasy managers should keep their expectations in check.
Source: NBA Injury Report

MIL • Forward • #34
about 2 months ago
No surprise here as Antetokounmpo was initially listed as probable with left adductor injury management. The 30-year-old power forward will start for the Bucks on Wednesday night amid reports that he might be considering leaving Milwaukee in the future. The Greek Freak has a difficult matchup against the tough Pistons defense Wednesday.

NYK • Center-Forward • #23
about 2 months ago
Robinson will miss the second leg of New York’s back-to-back, which shouldn’t come as a surprise. The last time he was unavailable, Ariel Hukporti filled out 12 reserve minutes at center, where he was unproductive in fantasy hoops.
Source: NBA Injury Report

MIL • Forward • #9
about 2 months ago
Portis didn’t make the initial injury report, but now there is a chance he is held out against Detroit. His potential absence would likely result in his minutes being divided among Myles Turner, Kyle Kuzma and Jericho Sims, which doesn’t open the door for any streaming options.
Source: NBA Injury Report

NYK • Guard • #11
about 2 months ago
While he matched his season-high with 11 assists, Brunson had his worst scoring game of the season on Tuesday. The 15 points were a season low, and the Knicks’ point guard had not shot below 30 percent from the field since the season-opening win over Cleveland. Boston did a good job of making Brunson uncomfortable offensively, and his off night was too much to overcome in the end. He’ll look to rebound when the Knicks host the Hornets on Wednesday.

NYK • Guard • #3
about 2 months ago
Hart has scored at least 19 points in four straight games, and the overall value has made him one of the best options in fantasy basketball over this period. Over the past week, the Knicks forward has been a top-10 player in eight- and nine-cat formats, cracking the top-5 in the former. After a slow start to the season, in part due to finger and back injuries, Hart has locked into a comfortable role and flourished. He’s rostered in 81 percent of Yahoo! leagues, and that number may increase before the end of Week 7.

NYK • Center-Forward • #32
about 2 months ago
While the Knicks’ four-game win streak ended on Tuesday, Towns had another encouraging offensive performance. After scoring 28 points on 8-of-21 shooting in wins over the Hornets and Bucks, KAT has totaled 51 points on 20-of-35 shooting over the last two. He’s providing third-round value in eight- and nine-cat formats, performing slightly better in the former. If Towns plays on Wednesday against the Hornets, that could be a big game for him, given Charlotte’s defensive struggles (24th in points allowed and defensive rating).

NYK • Guard-Forward • #25
about 2 months ago
After scoring five points on 2-of-4 from the field in the first half, Bridges caught fire and nearly helped the Knicks erase a 21-point second-half deficit. He hit seven three-pointers and scored 30 points, finishing with a season-high 35. In fact, this was Bridges’ first game with at least 20 points since November 17 against the Heat. The good news for those who have him rostered is that Bridges’ fantasy value isn’t solely dependent on points. He continues to provide top-10 value in nine-cat formats but should not be considered a “sell-high” option.

MIL • Guard • #14
about 2 months ago
Harris was not available for Monday’s loss to the Wizards, resulting in a few more minutes for fellow reserve Gary Trent Jr. While Trent’s playing 31 minutes was encouraging, his production has not been consistent enough to make him a must-roster player in most fantasy leagues.
Source: NBA Injury Report

MIL • Forward • #34
about 2 months ago
Due to left adductor strain injury management, Antetokounmpo is back on the Bucks’ injury report. The good news is that he’s considered probable, so he’s likely to play. If not, Kyle Kuzma will likely return to the starting lineup. In that spot, Kuzma would be worth rostering, even with the efficiency concerns.
Source: NBA Injury Report

MIL • Guard-Forward • #77
about 2 months ago
KPJ dropped 30 points in Sunday’s loss to Washington, but he left midway through the fourth quarter with lower back spasms. The back issue may keep him sidelined, and if he is unavailable, Ryan Rollins would presumably soak up additional minutes.
Source: NBA Injury Report

MIL • Forward • #34
about 2 months ago
Antetokounmpo was still able to pour in the points, but after scoring 29 points in 19 minutes in Milwaukee’s last game, this one was underwhelming. He has scored at least 25 points in all three games since he returned from a four-game absence with a groin injury, and the only game this year in which he failed to score 20 points was the game that he exited after scoring 14 points in 13 minutes. Giannis will continue to dominate usage for Milwaukee, though up next is a tough matchup with Detroit.

MIL • Guard-Forward • #77
about 2 months ago
KPJ made his return to the lineup on Saturday and was solid in that game after missing 19 games with a knee injury. However, he was a stud in this game before exiting with 6:37 left in the fourth due to lower back spasms. This shouldn’t be a lengthy absence for KPJ, but there is a chance he misses Wednesday’s game against the Pistons. Still, this was a phenomenal performance for him, and he has a chance to have a special season, as long as he remains healthy.
Source: Milwaukee Bucks
MIL • • #
about 2 months ago
GTJ will be available after initially being listed as probable. He’ll continue to play a significant reserve role, where he has been an inconsistent scoring option for the Bucks this year.
Source: Milwaukee Bucks

MIL • Forward • #34
about 2 months ago
Giannis was initially listed as probable, and now he has officially been cleared to suit up. He had 29 points in 19 minutes on Saturday and will hopefully spend more time on the floor for this game in order to stuff the stat sheet, as he typically does.
Source: Milwaukee Bucks

MIL • Guard • #14
about 2 months ago
The veteran guard has been a consistent part of the Bucks’ rotation off the bench, though he’s currently averaging the fewest points and minutes per game of his career. In his absence, Amir Coffey could be the recipient of a boost in minutes, while Gary Trent Jr. may see even more opportunities than usual.
Source: Milwaukee Bucks

NYK • Guard • #3
about 2 months ago
Hart played a pivotal role in this one as he remained sizzling-hot on the offensive end of the floor, eclipsing 19 points for the third consecutive game. He knocked down four of seven three-pointers and pulled down 12 rebounds to record his fifth double-double of the season. The Knicks will carry a five-game win streak into a road tilt on Tuesday against the Celtics before closing out a four-game week with matchup against the Hornets, Jazz and Magic.

NYK • Center-Forward • #32
about 2 months ago
Towns and Mitchell Robinson — who grabbed a staggering 15 rebounds in just 16 minutes off the bench — teamed up to help New York overwhelm Toronto on the glass, 61-40, in a one-sided affair. The 30-year-old big man is averaging nearly 22 points and 12 rebounds per-game through 19 games this season, delivering second-round value from a fantasy standpoint.

MIL • Guard • #13
about 2 months ago
Rollins led the Bucks with 31 minutes played, but he wasn’t as productive as he has been in recent weeks. The return of Kevin Porter Jr. (knee) may have impacted Rollins’ production. This game isn’t the best data point due to the lopsided score, but this is a situation worth monitoring over the next few weeks. Rollins is clearly enjoying a breakout season and is going to be a productive player for a long time. But KPJ could impact Rollins’ usage in the short term. Hopefully that trend won’t continue, and he’ll get back on track on Monday against the Wizards.

MIL • Forward • #34
about 2 months ago
Antetokounmpo only played 19 minutes due to the lopsided score, but that was more than enough time for him to pour in the points. Typically, Giannis will be even more dominant than he was in this game, but he was still able to make a huge impact in limited action. Up next is another matchup with a team at the bottom of the standings, with a trip to Washington on Monday. Hopefully that game will be closer so Giannis can surpass 20 minutes.

MIL • Guard-Forward • #77
about 2 months ago
KPJ injured his knee in the season opener and has been sidelined since. In his first game back, he immediately returned to the starting lineup. He logged 25 minutes, but that may not have been because of a minutes restriction since the game was lopsided until garbage time. KPJ is available in 64 percent of Yahoo! leagues, but if his first game back is any indicator, he is worth adding off the waiver wire.

MIL • Guard-Forward • #77
about 2 months ago
Porter is back, with Saturday’s game being his first since late October. He’ll start with Gary Trent Jr. being bumped to the bench. That’s good news for those who have Ryan Rollins, especially if this is the lineup that Doc Rivers decides to stick with moving forward. Giannis is also good to go after logging 28 minutes in his first game back from a strained groin on Friday. Look for him to be under a similar minutes limit against the Nets.
Source: NBA Lineups

MIL • Guard-Forward • #77
about 2 months ago
Sidelined since late October, Porter is ready to make his return to the court. While the Bucks have not divulged an official minutes limit, fantasy managers should not expect to see Porter take on a full workload in his first game back. Something to watch as KPJ shakes off the rust is how his return impacts Ryan Rollins’ playing time. Rollins has been excellent so far, but Porter’s return gives the Bucks another playmaker to call on.
Source: Jackson Gross

MIL • Guard-Forward • #77
about 2 months ago
Porter has been out since late October after undergoing a minor procedure on his right knee. The 25-year-old is listed as questionable, which at least gives him a chance of suiting up against the Nets on Saturday. Ryan Rollins has been excellent in Porter’s absence and should hold on to his starting job even when Porter returns.

MIL • Forward • #18
about 2 months ago
Kuzma’s return to the bench did not affect his production negatively on Friday. He made his first seven attempts from the field, and the 20 points were the most he’s scored in a game since November 14 (season-high 29 vs. Charlotte). Fantasy managers who were eager to drop Kuzma will want to hold off on that, especially with the Bucks hosting the Nets on Saturday. If Giannis Antetokounmpo (groin) gets the night off, Kuzma will be back with the starters in what should be an advantageous matchup for him.

MIL • Guard • #20
about 2 months ago
While Green’s production has not made him much more than a specialist within fantasy basketball, he continues to hold down his place within the Bucks’ starting lineup. He hit six more three-pointers on Friday, establishing a new season-high. Green finished a blocked shot shy of a complete stat line, and he has provided top-100 value over the past week. Still, he remains a player who’s only worth a look from managers seeking three-point production.

MIL • Forward • #34
about 2 months ago
Antetokounmpo was back in the lineup after a four-game absence. While Bucks head coach Doc Rivers said before the game that the former MVP would be under a minutes restriction, he did not divulge a specific number. Giannis played 28 minutes and looked sharp when on the floor. Kyle Kuzma returned to the bench but was still productive, scoring 20 points. With Milwaukee facing the Nets on Saturday, they may give Giannis the night off for injury management reasons.

NYK • Guard • #2
about 2 months ago
After knocking down five three-pointers and scoring 19 points in Wednesday’s win over the Hornets, McBride duplicated that performance two nights later. A starter in each of the Knicks’ last three games, Deuce has hit double figures in four of his last five. With Landry Shamet (shoulder) out for at least four weeks and OG Anunoby (hamstring) also out, McBride may be locked into the starting lineup for long enough to merit being streamed until the latter returns. The Knicks end Week 6 with a home game against the Raptors on Sunday.

NYK • Guard • #3
about 2 months ago
On a night when Karl-Anthony Towns (9/10/4/0/1 with one three-pointer) and Jordan Clarkson (6/4/3) combined to shoot 4-of-21 from the field, Hart stepped up and gave the Knicks important offensive production. The move back into the starting lineup has been great for the versatile wing, who has totaled 41 points over the last two games. We’ll see what happens when OG Anunoby returns from his hamstring injury, but it may be more likely that Miles McBride returns to the bench than Hart.

NYK • Guard • #11
about 2 months ago
Brunson has consistently tormented the Bucks, averaging 36 points per game since joining the Knicks. With that in mind, Friday’s performance should have been expected from the point guard, who led New York to the top spot in East Group C and a place in the NBA Cup quarterfinals. He’s scored at least 33 points in three of his last four games and has been close to a top-25 player in eight- and nine-cat formats over the past week. The Knicks host the Raptors, who they’ll visit in the NBA Cup quarterfinals, on Sunday in a non-Cup matchup.

MIL • Forward • #34
about 2 months ago
It won’t be Trent that returns to the bench with Giannis back. Trent will remain a starter, while Kyle Kuzma will be pushed to the bench after starting the last eight games. Kuzma will still play a significant role off the bench.
Source: Milwaukee Bucks

NYK • Guard-Forward • #25
about 2 months ago
Fantasy managers can count on Bridges for efficient scoring and complete stat lines, which has been quite the departure from his first season with the Knicks. He didn’t make any three-pointers on Wednesday, but that doesn’t matter much when you record five “stocks” as Mikal did. He’s still providing top-10 value in nine-cat formats and shouldn’t be considered a “sell-high” candidate given his overall production and durability.

NYK • Guard • #2
about 2 months ago
Making a second consecutive start, McBride had one of his best performances of the season in Charlotte. He shot 5-of-5 from beyond the arc, with the 19 points being six shy of his season-high. With Landry Shamet (shoulder) out for at least a month, McBride will be a key figure for the Knicks, whether he starts or comes off the bench. From a fantasy standpoint, he’s more valuable as a starter than as a reserve.

NYK • Guard • #3
about 2 months ago
Despite Mitchell Robinson (five rebounds, one assist, three steals and one blocked shot in 17 minutes) returning from an illness, Knicks head coach Mike Brown decided to stick with Hart and Miles McBride in the starting lineup. The move paid off, with Hart scoring 19 first-half points in his best offensive performance of the season. He didn’t do a whole lot after halftime, but the damage had been done. To say Hart managers will take the final stat line he recorded on Wednesday would be an understatement. We’ll see if Brown sticks with the same lineup on Friday when the Knicks host the Bucks.

NYK • Guard • #11
about 2 months ago
Needing a comfortable victory to increase their chances of advancing to the NBA Cup quarterfinals, Brunson and the Knicks beat Charlotte by a 129-101 margin. The captain has scored at least 27 points in all four games he’s played since returning from an ankle injury, including two games with 33. During this stretch, Brunson has provided top-40 value in nine-cat formats, which aligns with his season-long production. The Knicks can clinch the top spot in East Group C with a win over the Bucks on Friday.

NYK • Guard • #44
about 2 months ago
Shamet sustained the injury in Saturday’s loss to Orlando, and he’ll be out through at least late December. Shamet’s play time and production were trending up prior to his injury, and his absence will free up additional playing time for Miles McBride and Jordan Clarkson.
Source: Shams Charania

NYK • Center-Forward • #23
about 2 months ago
Robinson did not play in Monday’s win over the Nets due to illness. While he may return to the starting lineup on Wednesday, with Miles McBride or Josh Hart heading to the bench, the Knicks’ center has struggled to provide reliable fantasy value when available.
Source: NBA Injury Report

NYK • Guard-Forward • #25
about 2 months ago
After shooting 1-of-5 from the field in the first half, Bridges shot 4-of-6 and scored 12 points in the third quarter. He finished with another complete stat line and continues to exceed expectations, providing first-round value in nine-cat formats. Add in his availability, which has never been an issue, and Bridges has been one of the most valuable players in fantasy basketball to this point in the season.

NYK • Guard • #3
about 2 months ago
With Landry Shamet (shoulder) joining OG Anunoby (hamstring) on the sideline, Hart made his first start of the season on Monday. And he did “Josh Hart” things in Brooklyn, recording a solid stat line that was only lacking in points and field-goal percentage. If Hart remains in the starting five, he’s capable of providing value on par with his excellent 2024-25 campaign. More should be learned about the severity of Shamet’s shoulder injury in the coming days.

NYK • Guard • #11
about 2 months ago
While his overall stat line may have been pedestrian by his standards, Brunson took advantage of a subpar opponent to produce an efficient scoring night. He shot over 50 percent from the field and has tallied at least 27 points in five straight games. Over the past two weeks, Brunson has been a top-25 player in nine-cat formats, according to Basketball Monster. With games against the Hornets and Bucks to end Week 6, he’s capable of pushing his season-long value into the top-25.

NYK • Center-Forward • #32
about 2 months ago
After struggling in Saturday’s loss to the Magic, Towns was much better in the penultimate game of the Knicks’ five-game road trip. He recorded his third 30-point double-double of the season, with the 37 points being two shy of his high. Just as importantly for those who have Towns rostered, his fingerprints were all over Monday’s game. Sure, the opposition wasn’t the best, but nights like Monday are why KAT remains one of the top frontcourt players in fantasy basketball. Wednesday’s game against the Hornets could potentially be another good matchup for Towns.

NYK • Guard • #2
about 2 months ago
Already without OG Anunoby, the Knicks won’t have Landry Shamet or Mitchell Robinson for Monday’s game, either. As a result, McBride and Hart move into the starting lineup. Due to an illness, the former did not play in Saturday’s loss to the Magic, despite the Knicks never officially ruling him out. McBride has a clean bill of health now and is worth a look in deep leagues. Hart should already be rostered in most 12-team leagues.
Source: Kristian Winfield

NYK • Center-Forward • #23
about 2 months ago
Added to the Knicks’ injury report late Monday morning, Robinson is now out. With Landry Shamet (shoulder) injured, either Miles McBride or Josh Hart should move into the starting lineup. Hart offers solid 12-team league value whether he starts or comes off the bench, while McBride’s inconsistent scoring makes him challenging to trust fully.
Source: NBA Injury Report

NYK • Center-Forward • #23
about 2 months ago
Robinson popped up on the injury report with an illness on Monday morning, putting his status in doubt for the game against the Nets. The 27-year-old center will have the afternoon to recover from his illness. Miles McBride and Josh Hart are candidates to move into the starting lineup if Robinson is ultimately ruled out.